New Zealand “deeply shocked” after Canada drone-spied on its Olympic practices—twice
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Olympics are so often weak on punishments, not fair to the team, but the team should take an L if they play New Zealand. Should be consequences that matter. Some rando assistant would likely gladly get sent home for some free intel...
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Drones are noisy, that seems like a rather unintelligent way to try to spy when a quietly installed hidden camera could've done the job.
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I'm sure a half hour video telling coaches that spying on the other team's practice is wrong will prevent future incidents. That's how morals work, right? All's fair until you've done your annual training course?
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Well, apparently it had gotten missed once already since they caught the guy on his 2nd attempt (that we know of).
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Since he was acting on behalf of the Canadian football team, this would seem to be commercial use of a drone, yes? I wonder, was he a licensed operator in France, and was his aircraft registered w/ their DGAC? In the US, if you or your drone are unlicensed with FAA, you face penalties for getting caught by the authorities. Those penalties are more severe if you are unlicensed and operating commercially vs privately.
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Koga Onutalepo
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"Here's a breakdown of every method you totally shouldn't let yourselves get caught using to spy on the other team"
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I did not expect this to be how women's football/soccer got featured on the ars front page.
For additional context, the Canadian women are the reigning Olympic champions.
For additional context, the Canadian women are the reigning Olympic champions.
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I simply have no moral guide in the world outside of 20-30 minute corporate training videos. I literally cannot tell you if something is good or bad to do if I haven't seen, at the very least, 3 Powerpoint slides about it. Then, after I've seen it, I totally understand if and why it is good/bad to do or think.
Unrelated, but a lot of Police Departments, C-Suites, and athletics teams have been trying to hire me lately....weird.
Guess I'll have to wait until a "fun" "energetic" HR trainer comes and lets me know whether I should take those jobS!
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Sure, because the first thing you do as the victim of a false flag op is to admit that you did it...
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The Canadians broke the first rule of spying. They got caught.
If you're going to be successful as a spy, you have to learn to be invisible.
If you're going to be successful as a spy, you have to learn to be invisible.
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I am appalled that Ars used a drone to spy on the drone spying on a soccer match.
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Drones are regularly used to surveil defense contractors. Counter-drones are being deployed. Drone wars are happening already but not being reported.
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I've always held the door open for the drone that's been following me in to work... I guess I should start asking to see it's badge.
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I thought this would be obvious, but the training videos HR teams make you watch are not intended to teach ethics or worker safety, they are to protect employers from lawsuits. If you actually extract value or learning from them, that’s on you.
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Wow, Canada and New Zealand?! This is like hearing Smurfette and Strawberry Shortcake were involved in a barroom brawl. I actually mean that in a very nice way.
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ducatisymphony
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I am so embarrassed for my country....investigate thoroughly and throw the book at anyone involved. There is no excuse for this shit.
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And NZ is currently ranked 28th in the world. Why die on this hill? I can only assume from this that they've been spying on other teams too, but this is just the ones they were caught for.
In an interesting twist, Bev Priestman the Canadian head coach used to be the head of NZ Football and is married to a former NZ Football Ferns player. Awkward.
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Only if you get at least 60% on the multiple-choice test at the end
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I'm not sure of the structure - does a loss mean they're knocked out immediately? - if not, I'd argue they (the soccer team) should be disqualified from the Olympics altogether.
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And they medaled in Rio. They didn't play well in the last World Cup when Janine Beckie was hurt. Who has released a statement concerning this and she sounds TICKED. (I work at the university where she played college ball, so I have a bit of a bias.)
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They start out with group play. Canada - NZ is actually the first game of the tournament period.
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I do wonder if countries use their spy satellites for this kind of things for higher stake competition. Imagine world cup, but you use your spy satellites to look at the Brazilian team practice. There's very little chance of getting caught.
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And in France, there's no "innocent until proven guilty." With strong enough suspicion, it would be possible to detain him indefinitely.
Sounds like France went the diplomatic route, though. It's too bad, because as a Canadian, I'd prefer to see at LEAST "unlicensed use of a drone" charges pressed in this matter.
Junk like this is why I stopped caring about the Olympics.
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Pft! The photo was taken from The Orbiting HQ, it is Ars we are talking about.
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8 month suspended sentence and I think deported. Likely on the France and EU shitlist for non-entry.
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Technical specs on the best drone?
I assume you want something quiet, long flight time, decent camera and long range controls.
In unrelated news, NZ is suspending maple syrup imports for three months.
I assume you want something quiet, long flight time, decent camera and long range controls.
In unrelated news, NZ is suspending maple syrup imports for three months.
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Our Woman's team might only be ranked 28th but we did pretty well in the last world cup and there's always the possibility of an upset win or more likely draw on the cards again which could hamper Canada going through given the other teams in our pool so I can see their concern. At least with Canada you know you're going to get an apology when they're caught spying on you.
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I've actually wondered this before - since team sports usually practice in arenas and fields which are often open to the public, are there written rules about not having someone go watch them practice? Or is this just an unwritten rule? I feel like I've listened to sportsball announcers say things like "they did this and that in practice" enough times that it's relatively public anyway and seems like people are sitting in the stands watching these sorts of things. Or is this a matter of getting the drone close enough that it's hearing or seeing something that would otherwise not be heard from the sidelines.
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