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  1. chris4sylvia

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    Unfortunately it is Angela Merkel who has caused a lot of this problem relating to the influx of immigrants into the smaller European countries enroute.

    Germany is NOT the first E.U. country these immigrants encounter, but because of Angela Merkel's decision to suspend a ruling that stated asylum MUST be sought in the FIRST E.U. country reached, then the smaller countries have been overwhelmed with immigrants attempting to reach Germany.
     
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  2. Distant Lover

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    How is it lucky for the Europeans?
     
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      Lucky for the immigrants.
       
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  3. Distant Lover

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    Pew Research Global Attitudes and Trends MAY 12, 2014

    Concerns about immigration include both cultural and economic issues. Many believe that immigrants do not want to adopt their new country’s customs and ways of life, and many think immigrants are taking jobs away from native-born citizens...

    Huge majorities in both Greece (86%) and Italy (80%) say they want fewer immigrants allowed into their countries. More than half in the United Kingdom and France hold this view, as do 47% in Spain...

    Very few people in these EU nations want increased immigration. The percentage saying they believe more immigrants should be allowed into their country ranges from 14% in Germany to only 1% in Greece...

    When asked whether they believe immigrants want to adopt national customs and ways of life or remain distinct from the broader society, many in these EU countries, including more than half the public in Italy, Germany and France, express frustration over immigrants’ perceived failure to assimilate. And at least four-in-ten express this view in Greece, Spain, the UK and Poland...

    Roughly seven-in-ten Greeks and Italians say immigrants are a burden on the country because they take jobs and consume social benefits. On balance, Poles and the French also lean more toward this position...

    Greece is the only country where at least half (51%) say that immigrants are more to blame for crime than other groups, although nearly as many Germans (48%) and Italians (45%) also hold this view.
    *not_secure_link*www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/12/chapter-3-most-support-limiting-immigration/

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    There is no mention here about trends. I am confident that as more Arabs and Negroes have immigrated to Europe, opposition to immigration has increased. I am also confident the countries with the highest immigrant populations opposition to immigration is strongest.
     
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  4. chris4sylvia

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    @Distant Lover

    You obviously have NO idea as to what has caused this immigration crisis, and what regulations are supposed to be in place to maintain a level of population control within the smaller E.U. countries?

    Now please DO SOME RESEARCH before attempting to respond, because all you are doing is showing your total ignorance and racial prejudiced views.
     
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  5. Distant Lover

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    If there is anything you can tell me, other than insults, do it. What do you think has caused the immigration crisis? What "regulations are supposed to be in place to maintain a level of population control within the smaller E.U. countries?"

    What is apparent to me is that third world people are moving to first world countries, expecting to enjoy first world affluence. It is also apparent to me that most of these third world people are unwilling and unable to contribute to European civilization.
     
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    @Distant Lover

    Go back and read the link that discusses something called The Dublin Regulation, (post number 12 in this thread)

    This states that Asylum MUST be sought in the FIRST E.U. country encountered.

    Even your so-called intelligence on Geography should be aware that, for ANY immigrant moving towards Europe from Syria, Ethiopia and such like, Germany is NOT the first country encountered.

    Now this immigration crisis has been made worse by Germany deciding to suspend this regulation and stating that they can cope with around 800,000 immigrants, therefore causing a major influx of immigrants to countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Croatia. Thus causing these countries to also suspend the regulation so that they are not overwhelmed with asylum seekers and nowhere to contain them.

    Containment of a large influx of immigrants into smaller countries is a problem, which has resulted in borders being closed and these people being transported out into neighbouring countries. Some of these neighbouring countries, such as Austria, have NOT suspended the Dublin Regulation and are therefore acting as a corridor to which these immigrants are transported back to the border or being detained for entering the country illegally.

    IF you had bothered to follow this problem from when it was first high-lighted, and NOT jump in with your racially prejudiced views then you would know all this.
     
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  7. Distant Lover

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    If you are maintaining that Germany and Sweden should not have welcomed so many third world immigrants, I agree with you.
     
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    The fact is that Germany, for some unknown reason, decided to publicly state that they were suspending the Dublin Regulation without consultation with other E.U. countries.
    Thereby causing a major influx of immigrants, who would have otherwise been refused entry into the E.U. to storm the borders of the smaller countries.
    This in turn has led to a domino effect as each smaller country is overwhelmed with the flow of large numbers.

    When you look at the relative position of Germany in relation to where these immigrants are coming from, while it may be correct to suspend the Dublin Regulation for a short time, it was the WRONG decision for Germany to take WITHOUT first consulting with the countries that would be immediately affected.
     
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  9. shootersa

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    Shall we do another test, see if you have gotten any better at determining race strictly by appearance? Cause, you know, you failed miserably the last time.
     
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  10. shootersa

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    Oh, this is just too funny.
    At the start of the 20th century in the US the prevailing view of Americans was that those "dirty" European immigrants were stealing jobs, bringing their diseases and crime to our shores, and should be turned away before the country was ruined.
    As we know, those "dirty immigrants" assimilated and are a large part of why America became such a world power.

    The bigotry exhibited by "Mericans" with family heritages from all over the world just leaves me speechless.

    Your "facts" about how European countries view immigration today is no different than Americans have exhibited previously.
    And no different than Australians express towards orientals and Israelite's express towards non Jews.

    In other words old boy, yet another meaningless set of "facts" from your
    "NIGGERS IS VIOLENT AND STUPID"
    library.
     
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  11. Distant Lover

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    When was that? Post my comment. Let's discuss it.
     
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  12. Distant Lover

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    Immigration has always had a depressing effect on wages. By that I mean that immigration increases the number of people looking for jobs. More job applicants mean wages are lower than they would otherwise be. This was true during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries when my ancestors came to these shores from England, Germany, and Switzerland.

    However, during the turn of the last century the vast majority of immigrants were European. Europeans have an average IQ of 100. There were plenty of Ashkenazi Jews, with their IQ average of 112. On the west coast, most of the immigrants were high IQ Orientals - mainly Chinese and Japanese.

    They assimilated well for biological reasons. For biological reasons, I am pessimistic about most of the current migrants to Europe and the United States.
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    Toward the end of his life William Buckley wrote an interesting column about issues you raise. There was none of the usual rhetoric about freedom, the Constitution, the so called "Founding Fathers," and all that. He was simply looking at immigration from the standpoint of what benefits rich businessmen.

    He said that Hispanic immigration lowers wages. That's good. Unfortunately, most Hispanics vote Democrat when they become citizens. That is not good.

    Now in the past, European immigrants started by voting Democrat. However, as they became more affluent, most of them switched to the Republican Party.

    Most Hispanics who have been in this country for several generations continue to have low wage jobs. They continue to vote Democrat. Buckley concluded that if Hispanic immigrants figure out that their grandchildren will still have low wage jobs, they are likely to vote for economic redistribution.
     
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  14. shootersa

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    What utter uninformed bigoted babble.
    The case could be made that Immigration lowers ages. So what? I don't happen to agree with your assumption, but even if it is true, so what? (warning, Shooter has laid a trap for the dog here)
    But you need to dig into your "fact" archive to make the case that "most Hispanics" remain in low wage jobs after multiple generations.
    Cause your favorite reference, Wikipedia, makes the opposite conclusion.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_immigrants_in_the_United_States

    In comparison to first generation immigrants, second generation immigrants are more likely to achieve higher earnings.[2] In 2008, the median annual earnings for second generation immigrants were $42,297 while the median annual earnings for first generation immigrants were $32,631.[2] In the same year, the U.S. Census Bureau found that second generation immigrants had higher earnings overall, with 42% of the second generation immigrant population earning above $50,000 compared to just 31% of the first generation immigrant population.[2] Second generation immigrants are also less likely to live in poverty relative to their first generation counterparts.[2]
    Immigration usually means the second generation assimilates, gets better educated, and gets better jobs. You know, they live the American dream ......

    [​IMG]

    Shooters experience with family, friends and business contacts is that immigrants are more knowledgeable about politics, far more patriotic, and the most passionate about illegal immigrants; their attitude is that the vermin need to go the fuck back where they came from and do it legally.
     
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  15. shootersa

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    You asked for it.
    Identify the race(s) of the following....

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    *not_secure_link*0.tqn.com/d/inventors/1/0/4/J/chappelle.jpg​
     
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  16. Distant Lover

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    Where did I ever comment on those photographs? I do not remember seeing them.

    They all look mixed race. It is easier to distinguish the races of pure breeds.

    The young man at the top looks like a mixture of Negro and Oriental.

    The woman looks Hispanic. Hispanics usually have European and American Indian ancestry.

    The older man at the bottom looks mainly Negro, with some European ancestry.
     
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  17. shootersa

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    The first is Wil Demps, African and Japanese heritage.
    The second is Rashida Jones. Black and Ashkenazi Jew heritage
    The third is Emmett Chappelle. He says hes mainly black but with Hispanic ancestors in there as well. Oh, and he's a rocket scientist. Really; one of NASA's key scientists. A very smart fellow.

    Determining race by appearance s a fools mission. All of us are mixed race; the slippery slope you find yourself on is deciding a what point an individual should be discriminated against based on heritage rather than actions.
    Is any black heritage sufficient?
    How about 10%? Shall we lock them up in your slave camps?
    Or do we draw the line at 50%? then are we justified in shouting out
    "NIGGERS IS VIOLENT AND STUPID"
    What if they have the ever gentle and intelligent oriental or Jewish heritage; dos that offset black heritage? Do we give them credit against their "deficient" black heritage?

    Do you see your problem yet?
     
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  18. Distant Lover

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    The emotional outburst with which you began your post is neither intimidating, impressive, nor surprising. I expect this from you. :cool:

    Your quote from the Wikipedia article does not distinguish between Hispanics and Asians. Also, the term "Asians" does not distinguish between Orientals, who tend to have higher IQ's than white Gentiles of European origins, and non Orientals, who often have lower IQ's than white Gentiles of European Origins.

    From your Wikipedia article I also found this: "Currently, Mexican Americans constitute the largest percentage of second generation immigrants in the United States.[14]Among male high school graduates, the employment rates are comparable to those experienced by native born whites. When location is controlled for, the employment rate of Mexican American second generation immigrants surpasses that of native born, non-Hispanic whites.[14] Among male Mexican American second generation immigrants who have less than a high school diploma, employment rates are also higher than those of native born, non-Hispanic whites."

    Good for them. However, William Buckley's column did not discuss labor force participation, but average income (while it implied differences in average intelligence; one usually needs to be discrete with such implications).

    According to the U.S. Census Bureau in 2012 median household income in the United States was
    $68,636 for Asians (it would have been higher still for Orientals)
    $57,009 for whites, and
    $39,005 for Hispanics.

    *not_secure_link*www.businessinsider.com/heres-median-income-in-the-us-by-race-2013-9

    These income differences correspond to different SAT averages

    https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

    and different ACT averages

    *not_secure_link*www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

    Those income differences also conform to international scores on the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment
     
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  19. Distant Lover

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    No. Certainly not. I got two right. The one in the middle is certainly more Ashkenazi than Negro.

    In my response I pointed out that it is easier to determine the race of 100% pure breeds.
     
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  20. shootersa

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    Since your "facts" claim to prove differences in income and intelligence based on race please detail how each of them determined race.
    Let me help you. Here is what the census bureau says;
    The Census Bureau collects race data according to U.S. Office of Management and Budget guidelines, and these data are based on self-identification. People may choose to report more than one race group. People of any race may be of any ethnic origin.
    The College Board (SAT tests) say nothing on the topic, but when registering to take the SAT one is expected to identify their race. They provide no insight as to how to answer the question and don't match census bureau options as to what race(s) one can choose.

    So, given that two of your sources don't reliably classify race, your "facts" are faulty on their face.

    But you already knew that


     
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